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Remove the spam limit for llamas

I believe the spam limit serves a purpose in comments, in deviations, in journals, in anything that requires you to make a post but llamas? Why llamas? It's not like you can give more than one llama to a person anyway. If someone, if anyone wants to give a llama to every person on deviantArt why stop them? Who does it hurt?

I feel like this feature is unnecessary.

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    LilSweetySnek

    "Problem is that some Deviants are buying Llamas from other Deviants. That's fine but it cannot become a profitable business."

    It's not how it works... One llama a deviant anyway. It's hard to get points,and not so many people do llama trades everyday. If anything I'd see sometimes 5 llama trades per day maximum, and they offer 1 point per badge, not 200 per badge, for a total of a hundred of points.

    +1

    It's still one llama per deviant and is a pretty nice limit and so the spam limit doesn't make a lot of sense... But the spam limit still makes it a challenge when someone wants to reach the maximum number of llama badges !

     

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    llamalist

    dA isn't as wealthy as other social media sites. A spam filter is meant to keep server costs down. The spam filter bothers me too, but it's here to prevent abuse on the site.

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    llamalist

    I'm afraid I'll have to respectfully disagree. This isn't about removing the spam filter over all. Just making a change so that it excludes llamas. As for cost this is another change that would only require a few portions of code to be rewritten. I can promise you if they were so concerned with the cost on their servers, a feature like muro would be much more troublesome but that's just an opinion.

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    phoenixleo

    If it's just that, what's hurts them to do it one by one? 

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    phoenixleo

    Make your dream of doing it through blood sweat and tears be known! You might just get a llama for that! 

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    phoenixleo

    Although, people have demanded badges because they have given so many llamas, so whelp. 

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    phoenixleo

    I'm sorry, who are you? I already put in blood, sweat, and tears giving deviants llamas. I just don't think I should set off a spam filter when I'm just trying to give people a badge.

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    phoenixleo

    How fast are you sending that it's setting off spam alert? Surely it could be raised but still be in place?

    But kudos on doing it! 

     

    Edit: Also, llamas were introduced as a way to meet and find new deviants, look at their gallery and interact. If screwing up that idea is to just give out llamas left right without a spam limit, it's questionable and doesn't serve its purpose at all, and having it off means one can just go on with a script to give everyone that just for the sake of it. So, yes, if you're doing it manually, perhaps you are meeting new people.  

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    Space-between-spaces

    Oh hey phoenixleo,

    Well, if I am just using the features on website which includes the one so that I don't have to sign my password every time then the answer becomes pretty fast, I've actually had my computer freeze because I've loaded so many pages just to give them a llama. You're right regarding the purpose it serves I have gotten plenty of new watchers and friends since sending out llamas but I don't want to see that I've set off a spam filter that there just isn't a point to having in the first place.

    Edit: I was thinking of the points feature, with the llama I copied and pasted my password. If you're going to judge me, do it elsewhere.

    Removing the spam limit wouldn't change the purpose of the llamas but would change the rate at which they are given. More people would see more pages faster and personally I just give llamas because people seem to like them. It makes deviantArt a better place whenever we can make each other happy.

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    phoenixleo

    Ah I see! I haven’t had to use the password after the very first time I started donating llamas,  whenever I go on llama “spree”. I think that is a DA bug you’re facing. That’s also happened to others when donating points and it kept asking passwords, and also when donating llamas. So unless you are using a script, it’s likely not your fault or you aren’t gong fast. Just DA messing up. So contact help desk with a bug report so they fix this issue, as it shouldn’t be asking you for passwords after the first time and if you’re password is already saved. 

    But yeah, if your computer is freezing thst’s your browser/computer issue with having too many tabs being open. If you are hoping for one snap finger to get to donate 100 llamas, yeah that’s not what I would want on DA.  

    But I hope the password issue is being solved. That is, being the default system being bugged, necessary to solve. 

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    Dear phoenixleo,

    I'm sorry, it wasn't the giving llamas feature that gives you the option to remember your password, it's the giving points feature. Whoops. I thought for sure there was an option for both but it doesn't matter since I copy/paste my password for both anyway. However you haven't given me a justifiable reason why disabling the llama limit is a bad thing. And no I am often going fast with my business here on dA so it's not a glitch on dA.

    Let's see you open up the first 100 you see of someone's watch list and have it not slow down your computer.

    You keep mentioning scripts which makes me think you are referring to the ones created by hampshirebrony and kishan-bagaria for use here on dA. I've installed those now, much quicker and I don't have to load one hundred different pages. That being said you have not given any explanation why the removal of a pointless limit is a bad thing.

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    AgnosticDragon

    There are currently two users who have given out more than one million llamas, and hundreds more who have given out 100,000 or more. A lot of these llamas were given out since the spam filter was introduced. I can just imagine how many llamas people would give out, using nothing more than kishan-bagaria's tool augmented by hampshirebrony's tool, if there were no spam filter. Rubbing's favorite generating script crashed the site in 2011. I can imagine someone designing a script like that for llamas.

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    AgnosticDragon

    So your first assumption is that it would crash the website. Well, that's an interesting theory but that also means that dA's servers would have to be really crappy if a bunch of people giving out llamas could crash the website. I understand that something that faved things continually did that because the coding is more complex but we are talking about a simple badge feature. Llamas and favourites do not work the same way. I mean for the love of god, hampshirebrony and kishan-bagaria's features do not appear to have any direct effect on browsers or on the website itself but we are not talking about scripts that do something the website should be able to handle anyway.

    If dA can be crashed due to a simple feature then the problem is not the llamas but the website's programming itself.

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    AbsoluteZeroi1y895y9

    the llama buttons are very similar to the like button on youtube, except that the like button is for individual videos whereas the llama button is for a specific user. It is simply adding 1 to a numerical value. It's not complicated enough to actually cause any problems, unless all users used a script to do so automatically at the exact same time, which is highly unlikely.

    Though in the event it does happen, it would slow the site down only slightly. This would only be a problem if technical difficulties were already existing in the deviantart servers, which is rare and usually rectified immediately.

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    ScribbleTheFox

    Sorry if I might bump this topic, but I was Googling on ''Ways to not trip the llama filter'' and found this.

    It's such an annoying feature, especially since it's extremely easy to hit the spam filter. Would love it if DeviantArt either removes the feature or atleast make it not too easy to hit the spam filter, as bots mostly give out llama's on a way faster rate a human could do.

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    upalucasblakeman

    Hey guys, can any one of you give 168 more points and turn the llama spam filter off please?

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